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You can help. Important read http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/list.php?10 Mon, 20 May 2013 05:38:43 -0700 Phorum 5.2.7 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,23368,23368#msg-23368 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,23368,23368#msg-23368 Treasure Hunting Club of 2010The Nor’Easters
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www.noreasters.net]]> Sea Hunter Preserving the Hobby Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:48:45 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,7482,7482#msg-7482 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,7482,7482#msg-7482 by Neil Brodie

Archaeologists and metal detectorists reconcile conflicting interests in Great Britain's past.

Last November, not far from Canterbury in Kent, retired electrician Cliff Bradshaw was scanning a field with his metal detector when he made the find of a lifetime--a gold cup from around 1600 B.C. Bradshaw telephoned a local archaeologist, who was at first skeptical but quickly changed his mind when he saw a photograph of the object. The discovery alerted authorities to an ancient mound that had been flattened by millennia of plowing, and which was subsequently excavated by the Canterbury Archaeological Trust.

Bradshaw, under Britain's 1996 Treasure Act, looks set to share the cup's estimated $350,000 value with the landowner on whose property it was discovered, the cup itself going to the British Museum. The find showcases the trust and cooperation that exists between many metal detector enthusiasts and archaeologists in the United Kingdom.

But there is a disturbing new wrinkle in the U.K. metal-detecting scene: visiting tour groups of Canadian and American detectorists whose poor understanding of British laws and codes of practice are alienating their British counterparts and archaeologists. In February 1999, for example, an American citizen returning home from a metal-detecting vacation in England was stopped by customs officers at Heathrow Airport. The detectorist had ignored his tour organizers' warnings that all archaeological objects found in the U.K. need to be licensed for export, and his finds--medieval and later artifacts--were seized. He was not prosecuted and left the country with only a warning. The problem may not be simply rogue individuals. Anecdotal evidence suggests that some tours act in an unprincipled and illegal manner, taking participants detecting on private land without permission and even "nighthawking" (staging nighttime raids) on protected sites.

Neil Brodie is coordinator of the Illicit Antiquities Research Centre at the McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Cambridge.


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www.archaeology.org/0207/abstracts/letter.html]]> william Preserving the Hobby Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:04:32 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6950,6950#msg-6950 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6950,6950#msg-6950
(A word of explanation. The attached proposal was presented by Lewis B. Smith, a longtime Hunt county, TX artifact collector, to State Senator Bob Deuell in January of 2007 in hopes of getting the proposal passed into law during the last legislative session. Senator Duell was sympathetic and agreed to pass the proposal to the Texas Historical Commission. The Commission's lead archaeologist, Dr. Jim Bruseth, was favorably impressed with the proposal, although the head of THC, Larry Oaks, was not. The proposal was verbally submitted to the Council of Texas Archaeologists and the Texas Archaeological Society. Both groups gave an initially negative response, and at Mr. Smith's insistence, the entire proposal, along with further commentary addressing their major concerns, was submitted to them. The Council of Texas Archaeologists President, Dr. Charles Frederick, gave a strongly negative response. The TAS has not yet to be heard from on this issue.

This proposal MAKES SENSE. It is good for collecting, good for archaeology, and good for our state. Please send a copy of it, with your own comments or letter of support, to your state senator or representative. There are thousands of collectors throughout the state, and if all of them make their voices heard, we can make this proposal law. If you have any friends within the archaeological community, present this to them as persuasively as you can, Copy this proposal and pass it around at shows and meetings you attend.

You may wonder why the archaeological community is so opposed to a program that will enrich their own science so much? There is a fascinating article by Dr. E. J. Neuberger in the current (April-May-June 2007) article of Indian Artifact Magazine entitled "Bad Blood". If you have access to it, copy it and send it to your legislator along with this proposal. Thanks much for your help!!)

A PROPOSAL TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE

ABSTRACT: A proposal to amend the Texas State Antiquities Code to allow the surface collection of Indian Artifacts, by state-issued license holders, on all Texas public waterways.

HISTORY: Collecting Indian artifacts, as a hobby, is a time-honored American tradition. It has been practiced by US presidents, like Thomas Jefferson and Jimmy Carter, famous authors like Henry David Thoreau and Stirling North, and war heroes like Oklahoma's famous fighter ace Bob Johnson. Because of it's enormous land mass, large population, and abundant ancient occupation, Texas has as many if not more artifact collectors than any state in the Union. Each time one of these reservoirs fill, hundreds and sometimes thousands of archaeological sites are flooded. The vast majority of these sites were never recorded or excavated before the lakes filled, and even those that were excavated were very rarely completely cleaned of artifacts. Because the key to archaeology in context — that is, artifacts remaining where they were deposited by their makers — submerged sites are virtually useless to the science of archaeology, especially if they are located along the shoreline of the waterway. Constant erosion, deflation, wave action, and currents dislocate, scatter, and redeposit millions of artifacts each year. For decades, surface collectors have recovered artifacts from Texas rivers creeks and especially lakes without any official interference. While the Texas Antiquities Code was recently amended to contain language forbidding the retrieval of any artifacts from any public land, the public has remained largely ignorant of the Code and managing authorities have chosen not to enforce it, since these artifacts are so displaced and scattered (for example, a single pile of washed up gravel along a reservoir bank may yield coins and glass from the 20th century, pottery from 1300 AD, Gary points from 1000 BC, and Dalton points from 8000 BC, all lying within inches of each other!). Not to mention, the vast majority of artifacts collected are common examples of common types of knives and projectile points, which are so ubiquitous that there is little they can tell us about the past that is not already known, particularly when they are found out of context.

The federal law dealing with artifact collecting is the Archaeological Resources Protection Act of 1979 (PL96-95), passed to protect all "archaeological sites and resources on public land." While it does indeed protect artifacts on public land from illegal digging and excavation, Pres. Jimmy Carter, an avid arrowhead collector, insisted that language be inserted to protect surface hunters. So in Section 6, "Prohibitive Acts and Civil Penalties", the ARPA states "nothing is subsection (d) of this section shall be deemed applicable to any person with respect to the removal of arrowheads located on the surface of the ground." Then in section 7, "Civil Penalties", the law again stated: "No penalty shall be assessed under this section for the removal of arrowheads located on the surface of the ground." THE ORIGINAL INTENT IS CLEAR - ARPA was designed to protect archaeological sites on public land from pot hunters and grave robbers, but NOT to penalize surface collectors. Also, in the original debate surrounding the law, it was clear that an archaeological site was eroded, destroyed, or damaged to the extent that it was no longer a valid archaeological resource, managing authorities could not remove it from protection under ARPA by simple fiat. The original purpose of ARPA in this regard has been completely subverted in recent years. To my knowledge, not a single managing authority has ever removed any site, area, or waterway from ARPA protection — not even gravel bars in the middle of swift-flowing rivers! And out West the BLM and the Corps of Engineers have arrested surface collectors in spite of the law, charging them with "theft of government property" since they cannot legally charge them under ARPA! The ridiculousness of the federal or state government claiming ownership of every single washed-out, displaced arrowhead, pottery shard, or scraper in America should be apparent to anyone.

But sadly, in recent years, following the policy of the US Army Corps of Engineers, managing authorities of Texas Reservoirs have begun acting to forbid collecting of artifacts on the lakes that they manage. Most recently, signs have been posted on Lake Tawakoni reading: "Digging or removing any stone artifact, pottery, or bone from Sabine River Authority Land is a violation of the Antiquities Code of Texas. Violators will be prosecuted." This posting comes after 42 years of active collecting on Tawakoni have seen the removal of tens of thousands, and only came after an individual who owned land on the lake was found digging up Indian burial site with a tractor! In recent years, all artifact collectors have increasingly been portrayed as vandals, grave robbers, looters, "thieves of time", and any other derogatory phrase public officials can think of. But the fact remains that for every criminal who ransacks graves and takes backhoes to sites, there are HUNDREDS of simple hobbyists, surface collectors whose activities do not violate that spirit of the law, Many of them are doctors, lawyers, pastors, history professors, small business owners, and students whose favorite pastime has been criminalized without their knowledge or consent. The result of the sudden decision to enforce this virtually unknown law has the practical effect of driving law-abiding citizens away from the hobby, leaving the criminal element to take it over.

The proposal seeks to find a middle ground — to create a licensing agency which shall grant permits for ordinary citizens to surface collect artifacts off of public waterways without fear of the authorities, and to control the illegal digging, grave robbing, and other criminal activities that give all honest collectors a bad name.

PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ATIQUITIES CODE

Under the authority of the State of Texas, the Texas Historical Commission is allowed to issue permits for private citizens to collect Indian artifacts from all public waterways in Texas, [except for State Parks and lands administered by the Federal Government]. These private Artifact Collector Licenses may be obtained by any citizen who is 16 years of age or older, has a clean criminal record for the last 5 years, and no felony convictions. [Those under 16 will not be required to have a license as long as they are in company of a licensed collector.] Licenses are allowed to engage in the following activities:
Surface collecting of Indian artifacts from gravel bars and shorelines of all rivers, creeks, lakes, and waterways owned and/or administered by the state of Texas. Undisturbed sections of such sites will still receive full protection of the law. DIGGING FOR ARTIFACTS WILL STILL BE FORBIDDEN ON ALL PUBLIC LAND.
"Surface collecting" may be defined for the purposes of this law as the collection of any artifact, or relic, including stone implements, pottery, bone tools (unless they are made of human bone), and any other items made by prehistoric Texas tribes, or early Texas settlers, which can be retrieved BY HAND only. [The use of all digging tools — shovels, trowels, rakes, spades, hoes, etc. — is strictly forbidden. The only tools a licensed collector may use in pursuit of his hobby is a simple stick or pole to "flip" stones and chips, and a small, hand-held sifter no larger than 24" by 18".] "Digging" shall be defined as the removal/displacement of topsoil WITH DIGGING IMPLEMENTS to uncover relics. "Digging implements" shall be defined to include shovels, hoes, picks, trowels, rakes, spades, and any other tool whose clear purpose is to remove, dislocate, or overturn soil.
Exclusive ownership of all artifacts recovered, with all rights and privileges of private personal property ownership, commencing ONE YEAR after the find has been made and reported, if the State does not choose to acquire the artifact for study.
[Have their existing collections exempted from any criminal prosecution under previous statues.]
Licensees will be required to do the following:
Report all finds of complete artifacts to the Texas State Historical Commission on a regular basis according to guidelines handed down by the commission. [It is recommended that the THC designate one archaeologist for each waterway and reservoir in Texas for licensed hunters to report recovered artifacts to; that archaeologist can be in charge of assembling the database and making the initial determination as to whether the public interest would be served by the State acquiring ownership of a unique specimen. Reports could be field electronically, with digital photos.]
Allow the State of Texas to borrow any artifact collected off of public land for study. The study period may not exceed one year, and all expenses for shipping and handling study artifacts will be borne by the State Agency conducting the study.
Pay an annual fee for the maintenance of their Collecting License, not to exceed the amount of $75 per year.
Upon request, to allow the State to buy any artifact found on public land at market value, to become the permanent property of the State of Texas.
To report any and all discoveries of burials or human remains on State-owned land.
To fill out a THC Site Report on any newly discovered or unrecorded archaeological site.
Avoid any illegal activity, including digging, "prop washing" (using boat propeller to remove sediment from a site), or using power hoses to uncover artifacts.
To cooperate in a reasonable and open manner with all archaeologists and historians employed by THC or any other state agency.
The Texas State Historical Commission is empowered to work with the Texas Archaeological Research Laboratory to create a database of all reported artifacts, review collector information, acquire specimens of unique archaeological interest, and work with licensed collectors in such a way as to enhance, preserve, and extend our knowledge of the archaeology of Texas.

***NOTE ON BRACKETED PHRASES — These are sections of the proposal which could be removed from the final draft if they attract too much opposition from concerned parties.

UNDER THE CURRENT SYSTEM — EVERYBODY LOSES!!!

ARCHAEOLOGY LOSES — Collectors are afraid to share information because they might lose their artifacts and be prosecuted. Also, honest collectors driven off of surface collecting on already-destroyed sites on public land turn to collecting from sites and thus destroying them! Those who do continue to hunt on public waterways become more furtive and fearful, and the small amount of valuable information held in these dislocated artifacts is lost forever, while destruction of intact sites on private land is accelerated.

COLLECTORS LOSE — Their beloved hobby is criminalized, their character publicly defamed, and their access to artifacts limited. IF THE ARTIFACTS IN QUESTION WERE BEING COLLECTED AND CURATED BY THE STATE, MOST WOULD NOT COMPLAIN. AS IT IS, ARCHAEOLOGY DOES NOTHING TO RETRIEVE THESE ARTIFACTS BUT INSISTS NO ONE ELSE BE ALLOWED TO DO SO EITHER. Relations between the collecting community and the archaeological community are poisoned, and knowledge is lost in a fog of distrust and hostility.

TAXPAYERS LOSE — Their money is spent chasing down and prosecuting otherwise law-abiding citizens, while dangerous criminal elements have one less policeman/constable/game warden to worry about. No one likes seeing their money wasted in an ongoing effort to enforce something that is inherently unenforceable.

LAW ENFORCEMENT LOSES — As any schoolteacher can tell you, it is no use to have a rule if you do not plan to enforce it. No matter how many signs are posted around a reservoir, no matter how many hapless collectors are singled out to be "made an example of", if an artifact is lying visible along a shoreline, it will be picked up by someone who is either ignorant of the law or chooses not to obey it. With thousands of miles of shoreline along Texas reservoirs and an average of less than half dozen public officers patrolling each lake, thousands of people will continue to collect, and the occasional haphazard enforcement will only increase the hostility they feel for the law.

COMMON SENSE LOSES — A homeowner on the lake can dig a new boat channel behind his house and completely destroy a prehistoric site, cutting an 8 foot deep trench through the middle of it and packing all the dirt and artifacts behind a new bulkhead, and neither the law or managing authority of the reservoir bat an eye. But if a collector walks along the same stretch of beach and picks up artifacts exposed on the surface, he is a criminal. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

UNDER THE PROPOSED PLAN - EVERYBODY WINS!

ARCHAEOLOGY WINS — With licensing fees being used to hire new personnel, and tens of thousands of artifacts being reported by collectors from all over the state, a huge amount of information can be collected quickly, with no additional budget appropriations for excavation or field expeditions. Relations with the collecting community would be drastically improved, and knowledge would increase exponentially as more and more and more collectors decide to "go legal".

COLLECTORS WIN — They would have the right to do what they love doing without fear of prosecution or harassment. They can cut down on their competition by reporting the unlicensed collecting, digging, and criminal activities that have given them a bad name for years. They would be free to consult and share with archaeologists without the fear of "Big Brother" coming to take their stuff away. Their activities would finally be out from under the legal cloud that has darkened them for years.

TAXPAYERS WIN — - Instead of seeing their dollars spent in fruitless "sting operations" and endless lake patrols, the state could realize hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual revenues from license fees. This money could be budgeted to the THC to increase its capacity to process the huge flow of information that would be coming in, without the expenditure of additional tax revenue.

LAW ENFORCEMENT WINS — Game wardens, deputies, and lake patrols would be free to pursue real criminals, and be held in higher regard as the true protectors of our rights that they are, rather than agents of "Big Brother" harassing innocent citizens for activities that are, in the eyes of most people, not criminal at all.

COMMON SENSE WINS — Grave robbing is wrong and everyone knows it. Picking up an arrowhead washed up along a beach is one of the simple pleasures of life. It hurts no one, damages nothing, and should not be criminal. Unless the state is prepared to put dozens of enforcement officers on every reservoir and river in Texas and arrest every senior citizen, pastor, or Boy Scout who enjoys picking up arrowheads, it is time to put some laws on the books that MAKE SENSE! The amendment would place Texas in the unique position of setting a national example of cooperation between collectors and archaeologists, and be an everlasting credit to the legislature and governor of America's greatest state]]> william Preserving the Hobby Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:16:45 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6758,6758#msg-6758 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6758,6758#msg-6758
March 19, 2009

Dear Mr. Pearsall:

Thank you for contacting my office and sharing your thoughts with me regarding the Omnibus Land Management Act (S22).

This legislation was introduced by Senator Jeff Bingaman on January 7, 2009 and passed the Senate on January 15, 2009. The Omnibus Land Management Act did not pass the House when it was considered. I will keep your thoughts in mind should this legislation come to a vote on the House floor again.

Thank you again for contacting my office. It is a privilege to serve you in Washington.


Sincerely,


Carol Shea-Porter

Member of Congress]]> SteveP (NH) Preserving the Hobby Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:38:51 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6707,6707#msg-6707 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6707,6707#msg-6707
After one computer biting the dust and having to chop down some trees so I could get a better lock on a satellite...

It's good to see the ball still rolling, and the amazing online dicoveries you folks have made in terms of information.

My own experience and the resulting issue has been a real eye-opener for me, as I am sure it has been for many of you. I've only been metal detecting for almost four years, and I want to continue doing so with no limitations, but also, doing it knowing I can contribute something to the mission of preserving and sharing history.

I am going to have to apologize in advance to some of you who might expect the same presence on this forum in 2009 that you saw in 2008 on my part. I'm now relying on you to do the typing, as I am already finding it very hard to commit to anything as I have seemingly paved my way this winter into a multitude of efforts and events for 2009; all of these are aimed at better representing those truly interested in the historical aspects of metal detecting. My personal philosophy has always been to "put my money where my mouth is"...

Typing hasn't got me me very far in some places (magazines, gazettes, forums). I'm going to be doing a lot more "doing" in 2009.

I'll stop by periodically and update.


Jules]]> Jules Preserving the Hobby Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:28:04 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6269,6269#msg-6269 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6269,6269#msg-6269 I find myself in a situation where I have to look at the wording more than the intention. In doing so, I have more than a few times found, I must delete the post. I know this ticks a few people off, but put yourself in my shoes. It is my responsibility to moderate this forum. A lot of you are what I consider my friends. This makes my job that much more difficult.]]> Anonymous User Preserving the Hobby Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:40:42 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6260,6260#msg-6260 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6260,6260#msg-6260
Over the years, because of my experience with the Archaeologists, and my self imposed education of the antiquities laws, many have asked me to become more vocal against our intrusion of rights as metal detectorists and public land users. Many have told me that all though the other organizations that are helping our hobby gain our rights back, have not had enough power behind them to fight. Now, the time has come for me to announce the formation of the National Land Rights Foundation (NLRF).

In a moment I will explain why I believe that this organization will not only lay the foundation for land rights change, but will also have the power and the voice needed to command respect of our hobby, as well as respect in every recreation involving our public lands.

Our country is changing. More and more laws are being passed that are infringing upon our rights as free Americans. Many of these laws are unconstitutional, and are passed so swiftly that congress, nor the public has any idea what is happening. Honestly, I think our forefathers are turning over in their graves.

Already, our rights to use public lands has slowly been taken away. Ever since the unconstitutional passing of the Antiquities Law of 1906, we have also seen State laws that have been passed that infringe upon our hobby and our right to use city, town and village parks. This is why Mike Austin and I started NLRF.

You may be asking yourself, why will the National Land Rights Foundation be any different that some of the other organizations that have been in existence for many years?

The answer is simple. The NLRF will be a powerful voice for public land rights issues because we have a paid membership. Because of a paid membership, we will be able to involve lobbyists, and others to help us gain back what is rightfully ours.

Over the years, Mike Austin and I have formed a relationship with many individuals who can help our members in this issue. We have already reached out to them for their service, however, we need members, and we need membership dues in order to secure help from these individuals.

I am asking you to go to our website at

[www.national-land-rights-foundation.org] and see for yourself what we can offer. Take a look at our mission statement, see the benefits of joining, and then tell your friends and family about us.

We are all students of history, whether by land or sea, for gold nuggets or coins, searching for bottles or bullets. The use of a detector vs. trowel doesn’t criminalize our behavior or rationalize another.

This is a cause of which we are all joined and we will fight for all individuals who use public lands for recreation.

The time has come to speak out. Never before in the history of our great country have we been so blindsided by our government. If you care, then please go to the website. Help us to help you. Become a member of the NLRF, and then spread the word.

Thank You,
Frank

PS: Mike and I will be traveling the country speaking at clubs and various functions. If you want us as speakers please let me know.]]> Anonymous User Preserving the Hobby Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:44:42 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6241,6241#msg-6241 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6241,6241#msg-6241


The Four Lakes Metal Detecting club in Madison will be discussing the options and avenues to have this policy change repealed at the meeting tonight. At the meeting next month (March 25th) the state archaeologist will be attending the meeting. The Board of Members are requesting that members of the club submit any questions, comments, and most especially valid alternative policies be submitted to them before March 8th. Any comments and questions will be voiced by Board Members only at this meeting.



A petition has been set up at the following web page [www.ipetitions.com]


Please note that after you sign the petition you are asked for a donation. If you do not make a donation and close the page, your name is still on the petition. I’m not against sites like these supporting themselves in this manner, but you do not have to make a donation to remain an active signature.



Please let it be noted that the information I am sending out is a general statement of the situation as I understand it. I do believe this is a serious change that will affect any water hunting in Wisconsin, at any beach, swim area, or even in front of private residences.



I will do my best to answer any questions and I will be happy to accept information to forward on the the Board of Directors of the Four Lakes Metal Detecting club.]]> Anonymous User Preserving the Hobby Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:08:08 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6205,6205#msg-6205 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6205,6205#msg-6205 www.national-land-rights-foundation.org]

HH
Al]]> sillllvar Preserving the Hobby Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:46:47 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6169,6169#msg-6169 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6169,6169#msg-6169
On that evening I will be talking about metal detecting and its role in preserving history. I will also be presenting the Alstead Historical Society and the Town of Alstead with a collection of items from three different sites in that township and a piece of artwork related to that town's history.

I will be keeping you posted on the exact date, time, and location if you wish to attend.

Jules]]> Jules Preserving the Hobby Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:29:34 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6161,6161#msg-6161 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6161,6161#msg-6161 But the basic problem we face can not be solved by manufactures preaching good detector ethics.
And we can preach until we are blue in the face on how newbies should fill holes.

All it takes is a person who is suffering in this economy, to see one of those late night White's infomercials.

Then that person gets a cheap machine and go's to an old public park, that may have been your "hot-spot" in the spring damp dirt.

He gets thrown out for digging HUGE holes, and being annoying during a ball game wearing no headphones.

Next thing you know there is a NO Detecting sign.

The comparison between a fishing license and a detecting license is this.

If some jack@ss decides to keep an under sized Striped Bass, and he is fishing right next to me. I don't have to worry about getting thrown of the water as he would. Since I have a license and he most likely does not, And I follow the rules.

If some banana head decides to not fill his holes and leaves trash. I don't have to worry about being thrown off with him since I have a permit, and understand the code of ethics.

If detecting is Banned in all public parks, and they( town officials) are stubborn in their stance. Would you pay a fee for a license to have the right to detect?
The knuckle head politicians make the rules, we don't. We nee a back up proposal in case they decide to go ahead and create a blanket ban.
Believe me, I wish Government would stay the hell out of our Hobby. But if they get their dirty hands involved, we have to work with them. Most of us don't have the personal time to give to be a "crusader" in the war against detecting that is brewing. We can sign petitions, and write letters. But beyond that what can we do? We don't have a RECOGNIZED organization like the NRA.
The one area detecting is not like fishing is that good finds don't school and return back to Honey holes to be found again.

I am not trying to offend anyone. Just brainstorming solutions
Take Care
Jason]]> JASONSPAZ1 Preserving the Hobby Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:37:36 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6095,6095#msg-6095 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6095,6095#msg-6095 A fishing license is a great mold to start a metal detecting license program issued from states, or towns.
Part of the reason their has been a surge of sites being banned is for two reasons.

1)Name brand detectors are being sold at retailers they where never sold at before. An example is the Garrett Ace 150's I have seen at my local Dicks sporting goods. They where right next to the paintball stuff. I don't know about Wal-Mart. But I bet it is a matter of time before they stock them.

2) The economy. two many people out there sitting at home "depressed" seeing the late night White's commercials, with get rich dreams floating in their heads.


As a result, you get rookies with no care or understanding for the detector codes of ethics. They walk into a public park with a garden trowel and they go to town on the turf.

I partially blame said manufactures. Look at those Whites commercials. Do they really honestly show the 'reality" of detecting. I think the manufactures should realize MASS CONSUMER purchases of their products is only going to hurt their beloved industry in the long run.

With a fishing license. You sign off accepting the bylaws. "Don't keep this type of fish under this size", "Don't use this type of bait in that type of water". "Don't keep fish from here" "don't fish for this type of fish at that time of year"
As a fisherman, as well as a detectorist. I am aware of my hobbies rules and am confident that as long as I follow them. I don't have to worry about being bait for a hungry game warden looking to issue a citation.

If we as detectorists can come up with a plan, an outline of laws and a clear code of ethics to present to state and local public officials. Maybe we can convince them that we will pay pay a fair fee for a detecting license. On the license can be a list of areas deemed state historic sites and considered off limits. And some more wording on particular off limit areas. That way we can still use our GPS's and research skills to still scout out spots that will most likely not be on the "do not detect" list of an issued detecting license. This way. Us "serious" detectorist don't have to worry as much as "rookies" screwing it up for the rest of us. And towns can see a detecting license as a way to earn them some $$
If a detecting license says you can detect on public parks. And a random drive by a productive looking park, results in you jumping out of your car to detect. You don't have to worry about some self righteous DPW worker telling you to split. You can show him your detecting license that does not mention this particular park as being off limits.
I know some of you may be cringing at paying for a detecting license. But the fact is my fellow hunters. Detecting and the luxury we have enjoyed is coming to an end as we know it. We need to act now or loose the hobby. Then we will be stuck ONLY! being able to detect our own yards.
Think about it. Offer them our willingness to pay a "fishing license" fee to keep our own version of dirt fishing.



what do you all think.

take care
JASONSPAZ1]]> JASONSPAZ1 Preserving the Hobby Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:43:03 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6066,6066#msg-6066 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6066,6066#msg-6066
Instead, I'll do occasional brief segments discussing new city or state ordinances, as a part of longer shows that discuss other topics.

So please help me here: if your state, city, or county has instituted new, tougher rules concerning metal detecting, please send me whatever particulars you can find. I need to know for sure what the ban covers and when it was enacted. It would also be nice to know if the local hobbyist clubs are doing anything to fight back.

You may post here, but please also send your reports to: danhughesmail@gmail.com

Thanks!

---Dan, [thetreasurecorner.com]]]> dan Preserving the Hobby Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:06:07 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6011,6011#msg-6011 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,6011,6011#msg-6011 See you there.]]> Anonymous User Preserving the Hobby Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:54:18 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,5784,5784#msg-5784 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,5784,5784#msg-5784 Do we have to go to this length?
Or are we going to make a possitive move soon?
[www.petitiononline.com]]]> Anonymous User Preserving the Hobby Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:59:06 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,5287,5287#msg-5287 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,5287,5287#msg-5287 individuals and representatives from various groups to join forces to help maintain the laws and rights
of all Citizens on Public and Private lands. (Federal, State and City)
Our purpose is to represent all types of outdoor user groups that are interested in keeping
Public and Private lands open for the purpose of Mining, Timber, Grazing
and all forms of recreation on a non-discriminatory basis .

We will attempt to keep all informed of new rules, regulations and proposed changes
which will affect the use, or access of Public and Private Lands, prior to their implementation.
By this action, we hope that the voice of the People can and will be put into action
to prevent unnecessary closures and added restrictions which only impede the
Peoples right to use Public Lands for their enjoyment.

We will insure representation at public hearings of government agencies who are
proposing more and more limitation and restrictions on the lands that belong to the people.
WE WILL LITIGATE!
We will be prepared to file injunctions, when necessary, to prevent governmental agencies from
discussing public issues behind closed doors and calling them “personnel meetings”.
We will come to the aid of, and give individual attention to, persons or groups who are
being harassed, intimidated or mislead by people in authority (in or out of uniform)
who are attempting to enforce their own ideas or opinions of laws, rules or regulations, rather
than the actual laws, rules or regulations, and what it actually means.
We are here to help. Remember, PUBLIC LANDS FOR THE PEOPLE means....
our right to Use Public Lands, not to Abuse Public Lands

[www.plp2.org]]]> william Preserving the Hobby Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:51:07 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,5141,5141#msg-5141 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,5141,5141#msg-5141 Preserving the Hobby was created with the understanding that most of you were interested in this topic. Winter time is a great time to get involved.

I to am very interested in knowing how to establish a relationship with the many Historical Societies in our area of interest. We need to do this in a manner that would not suggest any type of greed or foot in the door type of mentality.

I am making a step toward our goal, with the Fort Exercise. With the great bunch that has already shown interest, I think we're off to a good start.

With that said, I think once George is back the 18th from his trip, we should try to set up our first group meeting.

I am open as we all should be, to any ideas you may have concerning all we have talked about.]]> Anonymous User Preserving the Hobby Thu, 01 Jan 2009 09:35:44 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4882,4882#msg-4882 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4882,4882#msg-4882 ngm.nationalgeographic.com]]]> RelicHunterBob Preserving the Hobby Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:34:35 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4665,4665#msg-4665 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4665,4665#msg-4665 In England and Wales metal detecting is legal provided permission is granted by the landowner, and the area is not a Scheduled Ancient Monument or covered by elements of the Countryside Stewardship Scheme. Voluntary reporting of finds to the Portable Antiquities Scheme or the UK Detector Finds Database is encouraged. These schemes have their critics, however, including some archaeologists and metal detectorists. The situation in Scotland is very different. Under the Scots law principle of bona vacantia, the Crown has claim over any object of any material where the original owner cannot be traced. There is also no 300 year limit to Scottish finds. Any artifact found, whether by metal detector survey or from an archaeological excavation, must be reported to the Crown through the Treasure Trove Advisory Panel at the National Museums of Scotland. The Panel then determines what will happen to the artifacts. Reporting is not voluntary, and failure to report the discovery of historic artifacts is a criminal offense in Scotland.
Archeology is beginning to recognize the contribution responsible metal detecting provides in adding to the knowledge of our past. One example is utilizing the skilled use of the metal detector to examine wide areas such as battlefield sites where surface scatters of metal objects may be all that survives. This has recently been demonstrated during archaeological work conducted at Antietam National Battlefield in the United States.]]> william Preserving the Hobby Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:40:50 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4629,4629#msg-4629 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4629,4629#msg-4629 Rediscovered today in an old folder.
[www.protecthehobbynow.com]]]> Anonymous User Preserving the Hobby Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:35:47 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4465,4465#msg-4465 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,4465,4465#msg-4465 There are pros and cons to a proposal to organize and fight proposed laws against metal detecting. However if enough interest, I do not mind renting a hall for a potluck supper meeting. Jules, please provide me a date & I'll see if I can rent a hall for a supper meeting.

Making the metal detecting problem known and other towns may feel they should act too.
I've always promoted donating finds, yearly to Historical Societies in area of find and feel if most detectorist did this, we would not be getting any flack now.
There has to be a way detectorist can work with towns who want to make metal detecting hard for the hobbyist. I think all detectorist should be ambassadores for the hobby and work on proving their hobby's worth
My opinion, Towns can make laws for town property, however I do not feel they can make laws for privately own land. Maybe someone should check this out.
In my 35 years of detecting, we have ran into problems with towns passing ordinances against metal detecting on town property. Some laws were pass and with time, forgotten. As long as detectorist have permission to hunt on private property, and occasionly donate finds to Historical Societies, I do not think towns will prohibit detecting on private land.]]> Sea Hunter Preserving the Hobby Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:04:25 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,3999,3999#msg-3999 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,3999,3999#msg-3999 Clubs were well attended and in this divided country as long as you stayed away from scheduled sites you were free to practice the hobby. For me metal detecting is my passion and my mission was saving objects of the past from farm machinery and the acids in the ground.

Out of the blue and without warning in the mid 90's the government imposed a blanket Ban on metal detecting because the Archeologists claimed that we were looters, robbers etc. Does any of this sound familiar?
There was no recourse after the ban was imposed..if you were caught it was a $100,000 fine and prison time sharing a cell with murderers and criminals. If you lived in the North of this divided country (Northern Ireland is part of the UK) you could still detect but legally only hunt for objects over 300 years old. If you were caught in possession of objects older that you did not report to the arkies you would be arrested, fined and possibly jailed. Even if you did the right thing and reported objects you were told never go back to that field again or you will be in trouble.

The country I speak of is called Ireland. For many years people detected there and now they do not. From behind closed doors the Arkies moved and formed a plan to do away with Mder's and they succeeded in the South with the most Draconian laws in Europe being introduced. Now I know that you might say that would never happen here in the USA or in my state. I remember a friend saying this is Ireland a free republic..a ban could never happen here. Well if he had only known what was coming.

Al]]> sillllvar Preserving the Hobby Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:26:41 -0700 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,3896,3896#msg-3896 http://www.northeastmetaldetectingforum.com/read.php?10,3896,3896#msg-3896 Change is Coming...

I recently had the opportunity to attend a talk on cellar holes at the Harris Center in Hancock, NH. RonNH was there with me. I attended the talk, as I know Ron did, with a genuine interest on the research that others had (and still are carrying out) in order to locate and preserve these historical resources, as they have been designated by archaeologists here in NH. Little did I know that at the conclusion of this wonderful presentation, people who use metal detectors would be referred to as "plunderers", and "looters".

My nice day out had just turned much worse than I could have ever imagined. Even the cold symptoms I felt on that day, and that eventually disabled me for nearly three days, could not keep me from going. But near the end of the presentation, I felt nausea, and was forced to head home, missing out on the field expedition to a nearby cellar hole after the talk.

I started out metal detecting with a genuine interest in American history. As I acquired more experience, I also acquired a much deeper appreciation, awareness and respect for history here in New England. As much as I also appreciate the hard work on behalf of archaeologists to research and preserve history, I believe that the vast majority of these professionals are at odds with people like you and me. The rhetoric and obvious tone at the end of the talk stated one thing, and one thing only... That we (people using metal detectors) are despised, and should not be allowed to metal detect anywhere near a cellar hole, nor any other area which bears the potential of yielding historical artifacts.

The principal argument presented by the archaeologists that I had the opportunity to speak with was: "People who use metal detectors remove artifacts from the historical context, only to have them end up in attics, or on eBay". A woman attending the talk stood up and told of a group that detected in her town, later displaying buttons and other finds from a cemetery, implying that said group had removed these quite literally off corpses! I suspect that the town she referred to is Alstead, and the group in question had in fact detected around the old mill area on the Cold River after the terrible flood that affected that town in New Hampshire. This woman, however, chose at this time and place to misconstrue and twist the story so as to portray that group in a negative way, substantiating her own views and beliefs, and reinforcing those that were being offered nearing the end of the talk. The damage had been done. Sitting there, listening, I knew that an unfair and harsh blow had been delivered to the image and spirit of metal detecting enthusiasts.

New Hampshire has long enjoyed a history of freedom, but that could all change, especially for people like you and me. And not just New Hampshire, but other neighboring States as well. At said talk, there were people from Vermont, as well as other states, who were very vocal in agreement that there should be limitations imposed on the activity of metal detecting.

Do you need an example of what could happen here? Here is an excerpt from the latest issue of a respected metal detecting publication, American Digger Magazine:

This regulation, as many are, was slipped in at some point with few outsiders knowing about it. Here is what Oregon Administrative Rule 736-051-0090 says:

A person may not knowingly and intentionally excavate, injure, destroy or alter an archaeological site or object from private lands in Oregon unless that activity is authorized by a permit issued pursuant to this rule.

In Oregon, a person such as you or me, would be required to obtain a permit to dig on privately owned land, even with the permission of that land's owner/s!

Wait, it gets better...

According to the Assistant State archaeologist of the State of Oregon, Susan Lynn White, an "official" archaeological site (such as mentioned in the Oregon Administrative Rule cited above), is a site that contains 10 or more artifacts that are 75 years or older located in a concentrated geographical area. This merits further exploration as to the definition of "concentrated geographical area"; the wording hints at a desperate and very vague attempt on behalf of individuals to classify and designate a specific area a historical site, yet ultimately effectively and lawfully negating access to it.

Oh, so you have a permit, huh? Where's your archaeologist?...

Once you have acquired a permit, it is your responsibility to arrange for an archaeologist to oversee and observe your excavation. By the way, you have to pay the archaeologist observing you. As a resident of Oregon, I'd have to wonder as to just what my tax dollars entitle me to.

That's what it's like in Oregon for people like you and me.

Clearly, there is an effort on behalf of some within the archaeological community here in New Hampshire to see that metal detecting comes to an end.

To have an item 75 years old, or older, classified as historic in North America is questionable, yet somewhat reasonable, considering that this nation's history is relatively young in comparison to other parts of the world. The term historic, or treasure, in places such as the UK applies to artifacts more than 300 years old, and with stipulations and conditions regarding their silver and/or gold content. Silllvar and Comcat (online forum names), who are contributors to the New England Metal Detecting Forum, and friends of mine, perhaps can further enlighten us, considering they have detected in the UK for many years, and have had to adhere to the laws and regulations there.

As of now, Federally, or State owned lands such as National Parks, or other such areas, are protected by law, and anyone attempting to metal detect on these is clearly in violation of the law, and punishable by such law/s. On the other side of this country, In Oregon, any individual metal detecting, or digging for bottles or any other historical artifact/s (as per the definition cited in the Oregon Administrative Rule above) without a permit (even on private land and with permission of the owner/s!) and without the observation of an archaeologist while doing so, is punishable by up to six months in jail. In Oregon, this is a Class B misdemeanor.

So, let's rewind to the part where cellar holes are historical resources, as designated and defined per archaeologists, who insist that these should be off limits to metal detecting enthusiasts... Right now, there is a legitimate and worthy effort to locate and catalogue these features, finding them and incorporating them in a State data base (as in the State of New Hampshire - where such data will not be made public!). Archaeologists lack the time and funding necessary to carry out a comprehensive search for and study of each and every cellar hole in existence. And this is why they are using the grassroots approach of talks and presentations to get communities to do the searching for and recording of cellar holes' locations for them. To think that an archaeologist will be able to locate and excavate each and every cellar hole in New Hampshire within the next 10, 20, and even 50 years is unrealistic, and even naive. And yet they are sponsoring, and holding presentations such as the one I attended, pushing their views and attempting to convince people that people using metal detectors are out to loot, plunder, and destroy cellar holes. Perhaps they ought to scrutinize the practices of the logging industry, which according to my own observations, has inflicted destruction on an incredibly ridiculous scale to old roads, stone walls, and cellar holes. Need proof? I'll be more than happy to provide photos, and even a guided tour, if necessary.

Sadly, another irony I was to later discover was that attending the same meetings and talks I had, was an individual from the town of Acworth, here in New Hampshire, who had indiscriminately destroyed centuries' old stone structures to re-build and restore another one. Said individual could very well have passed himself off as a genuinely interested and concerned member of his community, apparently displaying an interest in the preservation of historical resources, yet his actions clearly state otherwise. Some people in the town of Acworth may be able to recall and identify this individual, who performed said actions with some ensuing local controversy, so I feel it unnecesary to mention his identity. This exemplifies the type of hyprocacy that sometimes pollutes both the metal detecting and archaeological community. Ask any Native American whose ancestral settlements and burial grounds are being dug up and studied, and you'll further understand my application of the word hiprocacy.

Most important is the fact that some individuals in the archaeological community and/or directly affiliated to historical societies, are working very hard to have localities (towns) enact laws to limit the practice of metal detecting.

On my time off work, I never once bumped into an archaeologist at a cellar hole on a weekend, or after 5pm. This is not meant as derogatory to their efforts or methods, but to note and underline the reality that very little, if anything, has been done to locate and excavate these features that dot the woods of New England along trails, roads, and highways.

Somehow, at some point, someone took the time to go where no archaeologist had gone before, and probably never will go. Why? To sell whatever treasure they find? To become rich? I hardly think so... Meet and talk to any metal detecting enthusiast, and you will find that we are common, everyday people, hard-working citizens like yourselves, but who instead of fishing or hunting, prefer to move a gadget over the ground.


Out of 28 cellar holes I have visited over the last three years, only one had not been previously detected or excavated. The hobby of metal detecting has been around for just over 30 years, so to think that you can find an untouched site to carry out excavation in this day and age such as a cellar hole borders on fantasy. Metal detecting enthusiasts have for years been using old maps and other resources to locate and excavate in and around old foundations. As much as it hurts for me to tell you archaeologists this, "too little, too late". As worthy as your cause is, and I know so because my grandfather was an archaeologist in South America, it is subject to question when it comes to how much you actually can achieve in the region of New England by restricting access to sites such as cellar holes, when you consider just how much has already left the ground.

So, when talking about what has already left the ground, this begs the question, where are all these relics today?

I've been at this for a mere three years. I know people who've been at it since the first metal detectors came out. Hobbies can, and will most often evolve into passions. Passions sometimes denote, entail, and evolve into selfishness. In short, a "I found it. It's mine" kind of attitude. This is the kind of attitude that fuels archaeologists' arguements as they attempt to substantiate their views and their call for a ban on metal detecting. Do not underestimate or misunderstand for one minute the effect that these people are having on others, many of whom are right now downloading and printing out "No Metal Detecting" signs to post on their properties, and encouraging their neighbors to do so as well. The countless relics and coins found and dug since the advent of metal detecting are scattered everywhere, in attics, drawers, and boxes. Some may have even been sold. Have they been taken out of their historical context, such as archaeologists claim? For the most part, I'd agree, and say "yes". Perhaps one way we can go about bridging the exisisting chasm between metal detecting enthusiasts and the archaeological community is by performing more detailed recording of of our finds, more effective methods of preservation, and sharing them with entities such a historical societies, and archaeological societies as well. This demands a lot more responsibility and discipline on our part, such as educating ourselves in the practices and methodology of the archaeological community, in order to contribute to the cause of locating, retrieving, and preserving bits and pieces of American history. In my opinion, we can contribute greatly to, and complement archaeology by direct and constant collaboration.

It is also worth noting that the vast majority of items found wind up in the hands of the owners of the properties where these were found. I know, because I have had excited property owners snatch up my finds from my hands before I could even photograph them. However, It has been a great satisfaction for me to put in the hands of many families tangible connections to their land and their ancestry, and I know many other people in the detecting community know exactly what it feels like to do so. It is my opinion that the property owner be granted the opportunity to decide where a relic ultimately winds up. I would prefer to see an item be rescued and become a family heirloom, rather than have it wind up in a drawer somewhere, or left to decompose in the ground.

What has left the ground, has been saved from the onslaught of time and the elements. So, whether you're a property owner answering the door, only to find me (or any other metal detecting enthusiast/historical researcher) asking for your permission to detect on your land, or whether you're an archaeologist stating your case, the fact remains that were it not for individuals such as myself, a lot of history would be left to deteriorate. Forgotten and forsaken due to the bureaucracy and financial restrictions afflicting the archaeological community's intents and efforts.

The future of our hobby (passion is the word that applies to me, as I know the term applies to so many of you as well) lies in our ability to keep tabs on what happens on town and state levels. We may not be at the crossroads yet, but rest assured that the day will come when our activities and methods will be called into question, restricted and punishable by law. This may even happen without prior knowledge or notice, unless we keep our ears to the ground, and our eyes open. Maybe not in our time, but if your son or daughter have just started to enjoy metal detecting...

This is not a call to war, rather a call to awareness. But considering the existing negative and aggressive anti-detecting attitudes I have encountered and witnessed, I have to consider the philosophy that was ingrained in me through my military experience, which states: Hard training, easy combat.

Inform yourselves. Educate yourselves. If the archaeological community, our lawmakers, and our fellow citizens are allowed to cast a vote in our favor, or against us, on the issue of metal detecting, we must know so well in advance. If we can work with the archaeological community to enrich the experience and knowledge of generations to come through our passion and our skills, we must find out how to do so. Get involved. Contribute. Learn. Whether it be on a club level, or as groups of friends, we must somehow continue to stay in touch and informed on this issue, and be prepared to act accordingly.

It is really in the best interest of our children, and our grandchildren. Not just for the sake of metal detecting, and our history, but for the sake of our rights. Laws are being slid into effect, right under tax payers' noses, without prior public notice or consent. We cannot stand idly by as lawmakers and special interest groups surreptitiously decide the course of our actions and our future. We cannot stand idly by as people strive to paint all metal detecting enthusiasts with the same brush.

My epilogue...

Because of my passion for metal detecting, and the fact that my grandfather was an archaeologist (astronomer, paleontologist, and meteorologist, as well), I feel torn on the issue of metal detecting vs archaeology, and sometimes as though I should choose a side. But, in the end, this is not about having to choose sides, it is about avoiding conflict, rescuing and preserving history, and preserving the rights of property owners and people like myself. We must strive to find common ground in order to fulfill the mission of rescuing and preserving historical resources and artifacts.

The sad irony of all this is that the border between detecting enthusiasts (I have, and will furthermore refrain from using the popular term treasure hunters, because I feel it is misleading, and even demeaning) and archaeologists exists primarily on paper. Archaeologists have striven and worked hard to pursue and attain the academic benefits that ultimately serve as vehicles for their passions. They deserve the utmost respect for their efforts and their contributions to understanding our past. But aside from that fact, there is little or nothing that seperates them from most of us. Our levels of education may be different, and our methods may differ as well, but we share the same passion.

I know for a fact that right now, metal detecting forums, websites, groups, clubs and publications are being monitored by archaeologists very closely. The PTHHS was "infiltrated" (as per one archaeologist's own wording), and apparently much of what this individual witnessed and learned by doing so resulted in a negative experience that further bolstered their agenda and mission to ultimately put a ban on metal detecting. I suspect that such individual performed these actions with bias, a mind already made up, and not to inform themselves as to the methods and ethics of the metal detecting community. Rather than "going undercover", perhaps a much more forward and sincere approach would have served better as to begin forging a relationship that would benefit the cause of rescuing and preserving history.

As a side note, I should point out that the "undercover" foray described above was funded in part by our tax dollars.

We need archaeologists. And archaeologists need to make a living. Unfortunately, the region of New England is a rather small and relatively young region, when compared to other parts of the world. Much of the region, as rich as it is in history, is quickly falling victim to the unswerving wheels of progress, as Mattockman (as known on our forum) so poignantly stated via his own experience and observations. So, it is no wonder that archaeologists would so adamantly fight to keep metal detecting enthusiasts from carrying on their activities. In an direct and yet unwitting way, we may be taking away what little is left of their future endeavors. Archaeologists right now cannot halt loggers, developers, and citizens from altering or destroying historical resources. We, detecting enthusiasts, are the only direct threat and available target in their efforts to slow down the demise of their livelihood. I hardly think this is the sole motivation on their behalf, but it is very much worthy of consideration.

I think archaeologists need us more than some of them would care and like to admit to. It's a sad and obvious fact, considering the great service we could provide via our vast knowledge and expertise with our machines, were we allowed an opportunity to prove so. Perhaps archaeologists can learn how to establish a relationship with us for the sake of history by looking across the Atlantic, to the UK, and appreciate the benefits of the symbiotic relationship that exists there between the archaeologists and the metal detecting community.

On the political stage, when it comes right down to it, metal detecting enthusiasts are a minority in the viable voting pool, and I would not hesitate to deem ourselves as easily expendable for the sake of the mission of preserving history, as some archaeologists are hoping we are considered. From Selectmen to Governors, we are bound to one day be portrayed before them in a negative way so as to satisfy a misinformed, ill-intended and misled few.

It is up to us to exercise proper ethics and methods in order to restore and preserve our image. It is up to us to fulfill the interests of future generations by continuing to support the archaeological community and historical societies, but not at the expense of our rights and the rights of land owners. In order to fulfill these goals, we must consider ourselves to be held responsible and accountable for our actions, which should be within the parameters of existing laws, and carry out our research in a proper and conscientious manner. You are all ambassadors for the rest of us, are subject to scrutiny, and must conduct yourselves in a manner that upholds the integrity and spirit that embodies our shared passion.
Do not jeopardize our future, or allow for it to be put in the hands of special interest groups and/or politicians. Inform yourselves by visiting national and state websites such as www.nps.gov/nr and www.nh.gov/nhdr on a regular basis. Participate with and support local historical societies, making your intent and actions apparent, and worthy in contributing to their own mission.

It was recently my honor to present Mr. Alan Rumrill, a longstanding member, continuing active and prominent figure within the Cheshire County Historical Society, with a broche that was recovered at a site that is directly associated with his family's history in the town of Stoddard, New Hampshire. I met Mr. Rumrill nearly three years ago, after knocking on his door to ask permission to metal detect on his land. It was an incredible coincidence, as I had intended to meet and speak with him just after becoming a member of the Cheshire County Historical Society, and there I was, knocking on his door! Upon meeting Mr. Rumrill, I told him of my having detected at a cellar hole, which he immediately informed me belonged to his family, and I told him of the piece of jewelry I had recovered, and that I would be more than happy for him to have it. At the time I detected the site where I found the broche, I was uninformed and uneducated, and assumed that it was alright to detect at a cellar hole that lay remotely in the woods, and bore no "Posted" signs. The site had been obviously detected before, as I soon discovered by finding apparent signs of previous excavation, and the broche was the only artifact recovered by myself at that site.

It took me nearly two years to put in his hands this broche, but from the very moment I became aware that it belonged to his family, I knew what I had to do.

I never did return to that cellar hole, but if I do so, I would do so (hopefully) with the permission and approval of Mr. Rumrill, or any other member of his family. At the risk of boring him, I would also invite him to oversee any further detecting activities. In the end, with my wife as a witness, it was for me a very rewarding and humbling experience, to place in his hands a piece of his family's history, which he is currently seeking to publish.

I feel that as much as we can enrich our own personal historical experience through metal detecting, it is foremost our duty to enrich others' lives.

I consider myself worthy of speaking out for myself and my peers, many of whom I know personally, and who share in the passion of metal detecting with a sincere interest in history, and its preservation. I have had the opportunity to assess and appreciate their moral fibre, and what truly motivates them, as it does myself... History.

Sincerely,

Jules]]> Jules Preserving the Hobby Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:01:12 -0700